A recent article came out condemning l-arginine as causing death after heart attacks. This is the time you need it most of all and my personal experience in my office is that l-arginine has stopped heart attack and stroke so that for my patients, only 0.05% visit the cardiologists for anything at all each year.
This is my rebuttal to the article.
Response to JAMA 1/4/06 Vol 295, No.1, 58-64,
L-arginine therapy in Acute Myocardial Infarction
There are over 40,000 articles which are generally positive on the use of l-arginine to reverse arterial lining (endothelium) elasticity, atherosclerosis, homocysteine and viral damage. How did these authors come to opposite conclusions to these prior studies?
* They started with smaller amounts of l-arginine, 3 gm rather than the 5 grams thought to be the therapeutic amount.
* They reduced the 3 gm to lower amounts if the patients had “side effects” symptoms. They did not state who and how much.
* The source of l-arginine is from a company whose product I do not know.
Patient management had other curious notes.
* Elasticity did not change on treatment. Most research note that this reflects insufficient l-arginine given to the patient.
* Diabetes was “well controlled” – meaningless in the hands of cardiologists unless there are HbA1c etc to prove control.
* Plasma l-arginine changed to less on treatment – how little were they taking? At what times and how often was it decreased in those who died?
This is cardiologists’ research. If treatment does not change elasticity/vascular stiffness like it did for all the references the authors quote shouldn't investigators change the treatment to more l-arginine?
* They quoted 6 articles in the introduction that said l-arginine improved vascular elasticity. Why not follow these articles protocol? This study set out to show endothelial integrity (effect on heart attack) not arterial elasticity.
* Why do a study that didn't achieve the basic starting point and then pronounce l-arginine is dangerous.
* How long did the patients have diabetes? What were other co-morbid states? HbA1c values? What treatments were used for those with diabetes? How well were they controlled during the study? Were the cardiologists attentive to the diabetes care?
* Were the Cardiologists who reviewed this paper aware of the prior science of l-arginine?
There are all sorts of bad science with “significant outcomes” that get published and quoted over the years even though the study design is seriously flawed. Put this publication on the list to join,
* The University Group Diabetes Project – Diabetes – 1970 – don't give all the Orinase in a maximum dose at one time.
* The Effect of Monochromatic Infrared Energy on Sensation in Patients With Diabetic Peripheral Neuropathy Diabetes Care 28:2896-2900, 2005 – don't use subjective measurement of neuropathy when it can be quantitated with FDA approved testing.
* Two New England Journal of Medicine March 16, 2006 stating folic acid and B vitamins a useless to present heart disease – don't recognize that elevated homocysteine is due to an underlying metabolic disorder that needs correction as well as control with folic acid and vitamin Bs.
It’s hard to understand that science does not always agree on any one situation. As doctors, it is up to us to understand the perspective that any science brings and give you the meaning of how to go forward in your life. The people who died all had diabetes. After all, it’s your time.
9 comments:
Hi Dr Joe,
I am a urologist in Bradenton Florida. I stumbled across your website. I would be interested in novel uses of L-arginine and vitamin D in my patient population.
Where is a good source of L-arginine that is trusted.
Thanks,
George Rucker
sorry sir,
i forgot to list an email address.
you may contact me at goruck@yahoo.com
hey joe,
I am a urologist, george rucker, urologist in bradenton florida.
Please let me know about arginine and diabetics with erectile dysfuncton.
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Dr. Joe,
I am a type 2 diabetic of twenty years. First diagnosed 6 months after an automobile accident in which I suffered a c-1 fracture. I was 35 yrs old at the time and had no previous indication of diabetes prior to my accident. I had a complete physical 2 weeks prior to my accident which was fine all good results.. I am now beginning to have symptoms of neuropathy in my hands. I heard that
L Arginine may help relive the pain and feelings of tingling, burning and the numbness.
Do you have an opinion on L Arginine effects on diabetic neuropathy.
Thanks
I have been using L-arginine and added L-Citrulline and it caused the neuropathy to flare up. What is going on?
Hi Dr. Joe,
I am really a big fan of you. You articles are super. Especially about Arginine articles its really awesome.
Thank You
Joshua Thompson
Thank you very much!
Hello Dr. Joe,
I purchased an energy enhancer supplement based on micronized L-Arginine. It also contains grape seed extract and polyethilene glycol. Now I am not sure to take it because I have type 2 diabetes. Do you haveany opinion about using these L-Arginine supplements for diabetic people?
Thanks,
I am a 11 year type 2 diabetic with sever case of diabetic Neurophy in both feet ! I had no feeling in either leg from my mid cald down for about 4 years ! The only thing that help was Morphine which i am still taking to this day ! But i have cut it down to two 15 mg. of morphine a day ! From a high of 270 mg a day in 2003 ! I change my diet is the reason i have regain my feeling in my feet ! In 2003 i had a Penal Inplace pump install until 2010 when it burst and i had a new one install ! My body rejected it and two months later they had to remove it ( June 2010) ! They said i could never have an erection again ! But because i started taking L-Arginine-L-citrulline and Pycnogenol i have start to get Erections again on my own after just 4 weeks ! Also my Neurophy has improve dramatley also ! I have had a foot ulcer for 5 years that i have treated my self but because i could not feel any pain i just let it go and have keep it clean and covered ! Now in the last 4 weeks since i have started taking the above i can now feel the pain in my foot and now i have to stay off of it until it finally heals ! The above three compounds have been a miracle sent from heaven ! Any body cares to ask me questions fine with me ! Thank you,Bobby
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